You've done a terrific job, both of you. You have brought new people into this party and your time is at hand to have a real say in how this party is run.
I presume you've seen the article from Wednesday's Memphis Flyer talking about the upcoming Convention on Saturday; it even shows the picture Desi and Ann Sandberg appeared
in with David Upton back when Howard Dean came to Nashville earlier this year.
According to the article, Upton is quoted as saying that the race for chair is evenly contested between David Cocke and Cherry Davis. I take that to mean that they both have the same potential number of executive committee members committed to voting for each side, provided all delegates show up on Saturday.
However, that does NOT mean that either of them have 34 seats lined up on the Executive Committee, not by a long shot. This, of course, is where you come in. Only you know from your own numbers how many districts you control, and as such, how many potential seats on the new ExecCom you will have. That should give you an idea how Saturday will play out.
I URGE you to pick a candidate (and not necessarily Cocke or Davis) to unite behind. While it's no secret I am supporting Joe Young, if you don't pick Joe, you still need to have one voice to stand behind for the vote on Saturday.
1) If you can elect 20-25 seats on the committee this Saturday, your candidate can WIN. How? With 20+ votes, there's a reasonably good chance that this candidate will come in second, meaning that if Cherry Davis is the leader and your person is second, who do you think the Cocke people will support? Switch those names around and I am willing to bet the rent money that if your person comes in second behind David Cocke, the Davis supporters will flock to her/him rather than see Cocke win the election.
2) OK, what if our candidate DOESN'T finish first or second, smart guy, what then? Well, that's when things get interesting. Frankly, you will have the balance of power at that point. USE IT. You may even consider having your folks PASS on a second vote; if no one gets to 34 votes, they will have to push back the election to the next scheduled meeting on August 4.
However, if you've gotten this far, you didn't need me to tell you that. Good luck, and let's have fun on Saturday!
18 comments:
Right now the coalition has the largest possible block on the executive committee. But imagine on Saturday, they are reduced to third behind Chism and then Cocke. But Kuhn gets elected EC chairman. Is that to high a price to pay for the coalition?
Right now I hear that chism will pull his
votes in the direction of Matt if he feels that Cherry can't front it for him.
Thats what some x-leaders want anyway.
coalition has nothing in:
85
86
87
88
90
98
They are hoping for a strong showing but may not get it in:
83
89
92
93
Praying for miracles in:
91
95
96
Wow, amazing how things change and end up remaining the same old same old. Chism vs Ford.
Coalition=Kuhn=Chism=Toast
therefore Coalition=Toast
Great posts so far, folks, keep it up.
However, it's not difficult to figure out from which camp the last one came from.
All along, the Cocke camp (though not necessarily David himself) has tried to put this as a THEM versus US situation, meaning that if you support ANYONE other than David Cocke, you're supporting Sidney Chism's folks.
Which, of course, is why I'm not supporting either. I find the other posts fascinating, though.
As for dear old 93, my speculation from viewing the list is Coalition 10, Cocke 7; however, if any of the Coalition waffle, that could change, and that's what the Cocke side is counting on.
It is interesting that the Shelby County Democratic party was faced with a new scenario. Because their are new players, the system doesn't know what to do and it therefore went back to default. Ford faction vs Herenton faction. The coalition has almost neutralized itself. If it gets 6 to 8 people on the EC, they will be lucky. Chism may have 22 plus the 8 of the coalition and maybe Talut has 3. 33 total. Cocke will then have 34. The Chism guys working inside and Upton hitting from outside successfully split the coalition. Saturday will be incredible theater. Maybe TV crews will be there so I can see it on the 6 pm news.
Down 'n' Dirty
Local Democrats trade punches and split hairs as the chairmanship contest heats up.
BY JACKSON BAKER | JULY 15, 2005
Quote about coalition:
"This group constituted somewhere between a quarter and a third of the elected delegates."
25% of 67= 17
33% of 67= 22
Note to the coalition: Even in a perfect world you could only max out theorectically at 22 executive committee members. Did you over estimate your own strentgh?
Hello Leftwing Cracker,
Can you get a hold of the email sent out by the coalition that showed the results of the straw poll. I heard Joe won with people expected to be on the EC, but lost in the general delegate vote? I'd like to see how close it actually was. If the convention goes bad like some here seem think it will, there will probably be a lot of finger pointing.
I'll do my best!
if someone out there who has my email address has this information, please shoot it to me.
You know, it's always the posters and the readers who make a blog successful, and y'all are terrific!
As Dean Martin used to say, keep those cards & letters comin' in, folks, I read every one!
{Ducking all of the flying rhetorical bombs}
The ANON post is one of the great comments posted to the blog today, and I know what this person is talking about, because I've been on the inside. I just emailed it to my list, in fact.
You get that far inside on a campaign when decisions are made on the fly and your only focus is about staying on message and countering your opponent's attacks and all of a sudden you find yourself in 24/7 campaign mode, neverending. That's the problem we have today, right now, with regards to the fight over the ExecCom and the chairmanship; the hardcore have run off everyone else who might consider getting involved, and we have to get these folks back and keep them in the party.
People who are that far in, as I was (and will be again at some point) need to step back and get some perspective on how the public perceives the SCDP. I think ANON NAILS it.
Becky, someone (not me, because this is the first i've seen of it) has leaked to Jackson baker..
http://www.memphisflyer.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A9772
Are there theories as to why Matt Kuhn came out as the "consensus candidate" right after the first debate. He wasn't around for the caucus. Who told him to run and why? That seems like the biggest question of this year's SCDP restructuring. What was his motivation? Is he going to drop out since people think he is tied to Chism. Is he even tied to Chism?
Here is a dailykos type poll.
Did the Coalition endorse Kuhn because of:
A-principle
B-Chism steered them into taking his group's beating
C-Sink Cocke's candidacy
D-loyalty to his Mom
A - Principle
I like Matt, but he his tied to Chism. His mother is a long time supporter of Gayle Jones Carson- who is a major Herenton/Chism player and Matt himself work for Shep Wilburn - who also has ties to the HC "faction"
Some of those people posting are dead on- if you'll notice - no one's talking about Joe Young- the only candidate who truly has no ties. Many in Democracy for America lobbied for his candidacy for that very reason and were turned down flat by the Leadership of MDIA -- who, lest you be fooled, had this plan in play all along. - Hence why they are led by Norma Lester, another major Chism player.
Matt has worked with a broad spectrum of politicians and has shown he can work effectively with all "factions," - from Ford to Chism, Wharton, Tanner, etc. That is EXACTLY why Matt is an ideal CONSENSUS candidate to unify and revitalize the Shelby County Demcratic Party. That is the POINT of his candidacy - UNITY.
What happened to the concept of the will of the MAJORITY - votes in a DEMOCRACY are decided by the MAJORITY; ALL Coalition delegates and alternates had a vote. The VOTE supported Matt Kuhn, not Joe Young.
As for Joe Young having no ties, take off your rose-colored glasses. Who introduced Joe as "her" candidate - Kathryn Bowers. This hardly makes Joe Young the "only candidate with NO TIES." Think again!
Maybe you should remove your rose colored glasses. Matt=Chism. The Coalition ran two candidates -one with African Americans and one with white Dems. They waited it out and when a "consensus" emerged - they threw in together- in dramatic announcement form (which I bet was written two months ago) You don't think Chism was promised a slot for Cherry Davis in exchange for that coup. GROW UP! Matt has no experience running Shelby County wide politics- which I think we can all agree is politically unique- other than his association with Shep Wilburn- which really is not a ringing endorsement of his qualifications. I know some people think that's what is great about him - but . . . well if you like the sacrafical lambs to the wolves scenerio - so be it. When it all goes to S---, I guess he can turn to his old buddy Chism for advise.
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