Friday, June 30, 2006

MC 100-Foot Lady Liberty of Jesus?


Click the title as our fellow 'Cue-master Jim Maynard cracks hard on World Overcomers Church for installing this desecration of our American symbol, Lady Liberty.

Let us remember that Lady Liberty represented the idea that ANYONE, regardless of RACE, CREED, COLOR or RELIGION was welcome on these shores to pursue happiness and freedom, which is the OPPOSITE of what this statue represents:

If you're not Christian (particularly OUR KIND), you're not really an American.

I suspect most Christians I know are offended, much less any one of another faith.


20 comments:

Jeff said...

OT. Cracker, what is a Customer Correspondent?

Jim Maynard said...

Actualy, I didn't take the picture, its from the Thursday Commercial Appeal..

LeftWingCracker said...

I write letters to customers with service failures..

mike said...

"Let us remember that Lady Liberty represented the idea that ANYONE, regardless of RACE, CREED, COLOR or RELIGION was welcome on these shores to pursue happiness and freedom, which is the OPPOSITE of what this statue represents:"

Learn your history, dude. She represents "Liberty Enlightens the World." She stands for the ideals of the American and French Revolutions: freedom, democracy and republican government. She wasn't saying "Come here." She was saying to the rest of the world "You can do it too." She was a rebuke to the monarchial governments of Europe.

YOUR interpretation came about because a bunch of wealthy New York elites wanted to memorialise their poet friend. So they hijacked the Statue for their purposes. The person who wrote the poem was able to travel Europe for a year while most New Yorkers could barely house or feed themselves.

Besides, it's art! So what if it pisses you off? To hell with you and your bourgeous, middle brow attitudes. Artists are supposed to have freedom in this country, yes?

Or is it only freedom for some points of view? Crosses in urine, crosses in the air, what's the diff?

LeftWingCracker said...

You're calling me Boojie???????

them's fightin' words, bubba!

I have NEVER heard that interpretation of the Statue of Liberty anywhere else, in all seriousness. My great-grandfather came in there at the age of 3 in 1865 from Poland.....

mike said...

"I have NEVER heard that interpretation of the Statue of Liberty...."

Like I said, learn your history. Lots of what we "think" we know is false or mangled in the handing down. Look up the history of the Statue and the poet. You'll see.

Brassmask said...

Mike,


I'm sure lots of people who like the Taliban would agree with this sort of artistic expression too.


Nothing says rightwing fundamentalism like mixing government with religion!


Yes sir, break out your burkas, ladies.


And everyone knows that when Jesus (the supposed inspiration for "christians") said to take care of the lesser amongst us, he meant build giant statues (idols) that cost $300 grand.


And what did Bellevue spend on those crosses out there at their country club church?

It was either a nearly a million or nearly $100 grand. Hey, it's their money but come on, you have to acknowledge the utter hypocrisy of they're saying they're committed to christ and his teachings and then blowing it on some crap like this and not a few months more funding for "Seek The Higher Path".

mike said...

Take a cross and stick in urine? Hey, if you don't like it, stuff it! It's America and we can do what we want.

Take a cross and stick it in the hands of some woman (She's wearing a floor-length dress! It's gender stereotyping! It's the deliberate hobbling of womyn and a covering over of their sexuality!) and it's a sign of the Liberal Apocalypse. Sorry, if one's not wrong neither is the other.

"And everyone knows that when Jesus (the supposed inspiration for "christians") said to take care of the lesser amongst us, he meant build giant statues (idols) that cost $300 grand."

Yeah, and I was trying to find the part of the Bible where Jesus told the Roman Emperor and Pontius Pilate to share the government's treasury with the poor. Hmmm, he never seems to have criticised the Roman Empire! Nor slavery nor the second-class status of womyn in his society.

He could've tasked the government with taking care of the least of us, but he seems to have made that a personal responsibility. Does that stop liberals from mis-invoking his name and message (well, some of y'all anyway) when trying to justify another big government program?

Right.

Brassmask said...

Righties with axes to grind about big government as so old fashioned to me. Here, they control the whole government and can do whatever they want and what do they do? They INCREASE the size of government more than any "administration" in history. And what do those righties who love less government and are supposedly fiscally conservative do in answer to BushCo throwing more of their money in the gutter for Homeland Security and billions to contractors who are actively defrauding the government? THEY VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN.

Just another example of the hypocrisy of career politicians.

Jesus told the People to care for the lesser among you. (how ironic that I, an atheist, should have to spell out the words of Jesus to someone. He seemed like a nice guy.) Government is a natural extension of the People.

Government is our tool but it also reflects our values and ethics. (well, it should anyhow. Right now, it's not doing that since our federal government was hijacked by some cultists and the local government appears to be up for sale for chump change)

So, if government is opting to care for the poor or give a hand up instead of a hand out, then that's the will of the people.

Again, whining about "big programs" now is sort of silly especially if you voted for Bush in '04.

mike said...

Hah! I'm an atheist as well. And I voted Badnarik (Libertarian) in '04.

"Government is our tool but it also reflects our values and ethics."

That's just it. Government *is* a tool and just like a hammer can drive in nails or smash in a head depending on who wields it, so can government. Big power tools and lots of them tends to attract those who like power, like to wield it, and like to control it. Minimise the power and you minimise the mischief.

Folks like yourself always excuse the misuse of power ("well, it should anyhow... hijacked by some cultists ...) because you firmly believe that *you*, the supposedly pure of motive, should always have control of it. What egotism and power-tripping!

And I have always deplored big government. If it was mine to decide, most all entitlement programs would be gone, as would handouts for art, etc. I hate what the folks in power are doing (the Republican wing of the permanent government).

But when the addicts are used to the free flow of drugs, it's hard to get them to stop. And when you're the dealer, making tons of money for doling out the stuff, it's hard to stop. Me, I'm have a Jeffersonian view of things: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." But comfort and security addicts are deathly afraid of any changes. Don't rock the boat!

So here we stay. Slowly growing bloated until we eventually die of surfeit.

RAM said...

Mike, you've got a lot of anger. Why? What's making you so angry? Relax. The Bush regime has your best interests at heart.

RAM said...

Oh, and by the way, I find the statue offensive---mostly uncreative and ostentatious.

mike said...

Ah, yes. Can't counter the arguments (ad argumentum) so you attack the man (ad hominem). Oooh, look! Nice shiny object! Go play with the nice, shiny object, RAM.

Jeff said...

Mike's knowledge of historical trivia is admirable, but he lacks understanding of the context.

The context being that the words and the symbol are married in the cultural consciousness. Knowing the "truth" about what they originally meant doesn't discredit what they mean today, not in the least, any more than knowing the true meaning of the Confederate battle flag to white Southerners changes the fact that it is a symbol of racism to a large segment of our population.

The Statue of Liberty is welded to the concept of a welcoming America, not only shining a beacon of Liberty to all the world, but also inviting those who would share in that liberty to come to our shores. Maybe that wasn't the original intent, but that's what it means today.

But please feel free to whip out the old Cliff Clavin persona whenever you like. Cheers was one of my favorite shows. And as I work at the postal service, I can say with authority that Cliff was NOT a caricature.

On another note, the Taliban tore down religious statues, rather than support them.

mike said...

Ah, ad hominem and its modern fillip, the "lack of sophistication." At least have the decency to respond *to* me rather than *about* me to others.

Your argument seems to be that knowing the true history and the facts of things isn't as important as the "context," a nebulous haze of misunderstanding, mislearning and willful ignorance in the service of modern agendas. Personally, I'd much rather know the truth of things, even if it's unpleasant, than to walk around muddle-headed but feeling good about it.

If Cliff Clavin is what you got, then I'd like to suggest you turn off the television and maybe read some books. History might be a good place to start.

mike said...

My apologies to Steve for dropping my soapbox on his blog. I'm outta here!

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Sarah said...

I was going to be snarky, but I dropped it.

Nice blog, Steve. Take care.