"The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. ”
— Franklin D. Roosevelt
I may not get to define what it means to be a Democrat, but I can sure as hell define what I think is a Democrat, and this is not it.
As to the question itself; it's not that I am for open borders, but I am for the type of reform that holds employers accountable for hiring illegals. If illegals don't get hired, they stop coming here.
For those who are here and aren't going back, we need a real path to citizenship. You could devote billions to shipping every last one back to their country of origin, but they would all be back in the country in less than six months because they have overcome every obstacle to get here, to WORK.
How long do you think it would take to set up a system whereby every employer can be certified as "illegal free"? What should be done in the meantime?
The authority to regulate immigration is vested in the federal government.
But illegal immigration was never mentioned.
Immigration: federal process illegal immigration: criminal act
Can you name other types of crimes that states are barred from addressing?
I'm just saying, states can't always wait for the federal government to take action.
Don't you think that Arizona has accelerated the debate with this law? Do you think legislators would be so eager to address the issue if an individual state hadn't taken initiative? I think not.
I'm not sure how big a problem it is either, but I do know that states have no guidance from the federal government over immigration.
The point is that the federal government needs to address the problem rather than admonish Arizona for trying to come up with its own immigration policy.
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Yea but McWherter will most likely face Haslam, who is anything but a "Genuine Republican"
Haslam, who with housing projects and tax increases, has moved left. Is it any surprise that McWherter has moved right?
Wring your hands all you want to, but you see, you don't get to define what it means to be a Democrat.
And you're wrong on the issue.
Mute,
I may not get to define what it means to be a Democrat, but I can sure as hell define what I think is a Democrat, and this is not it.
As to the question itself; it's not that I am for open borders, but I am for the type of reform that holds employers accountable for hiring illegals. If illegals don't get hired, they stop coming here.
For those who are here and aren't going back, we need a real path to citizenship. You could devote billions to shipping every last one back to their country of origin, but they would all be back in the country in less than six months because they have overcome every obstacle to get here, to WORK.
Your thoughts?
How long do you think it would take to set up a system whereby every employer can be certified as "illegal free"? What should be done in the meantime?
The authority to regulate immigration is vested in the federal government.
But illegal immigration was never mentioned.
Immigration: federal process
illegal immigration: criminal act
Can you name other types of crimes that states are barred from addressing?
I'm just saying, states can't always wait for the federal government to take action.
Don't you think that Arizona has accelerated the debate with this law? Do you think legislators would be so eager to address the issue if an individual state hadn't taken initiative? I think not.
How critical is the problem? I don't see this as that critical a problem, why do others?
I'm not sure how big a problem it is either, but I do know that states have no guidance from the federal government over immigration.
The point is that the federal government needs to address the problem rather than admonish Arizona for trying to come up with its own immigration policy.
Political points? yes
Solutions? no
As long as your making the Fredo reference, do you want to follow Michale's course?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-nOb_mTunI
Or do you see MM as saying this to your branch of the party?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQh80G5TAek
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